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Fourth Meeting - Minutes

1. Welcome

          Prof. Rajesh Sachdeva, Director, Central Institute of Indian Languages and Chairperson, Linguistic Data Consortium for Indian Languages (LDC-IL) welcomed the Members of the Fourth Project Advisory Committee meeting.

2. Release of LDC-IL Publications

          Shri R P Sisodia, Director (Languages), Ministry of Human Resource Development released the following LDC-IL Publications;

  1. Morphological Analysers and Generators
  2. Part-of-Speech Tagging
  3. Creation of Multilingual Speech Resources: Academic & Technical Issues
  4. Making of Electronic Dictionary

3. Agenda Items

After the Welcome, the agenda items were taken up in the order.

I. Confirmation of the Minutes of the Third PAC Meeting

The Minutes of the Third Project Advisory Committee Meeting of the Linguistic Data Consortium for Indian Languages (LDC-IL) held on December 8, 2008 were confirmed.

II. Action Taken Report

The actions taken on the recommendations of the Third Project Advisory Committee Meeting were explained item-wise.

III. Presentation on Review of Progress

Dr. L. Ramamoorthy, Reader cum Research Officer & Head, LDC-IL made a presentation on progress of work in LDC-IL from December 8, 2008 to July 31, 2010.

IV.  Annual Plan : 2010-11

The proposed annual action plan for the year 2010-11 was considered and approved. 

          During the review of progress, some of the issues related to text/speech corpus were discussed.

A : Text Corpus : LDC-IL is downloading the data from leading newspapers for the project work. The PAC advised to verify whether such act attracts any copyright issues or not. If so, the collected data cannot be published or utilized without the consent.

B:  Speech Corpus :

i. It was suggested that, collecting fine speech data by using advanced recording device is not necessary for automatic speech synthesis. It is better to have real life information by collecting telephonic data in 8HZ sampling rate. However, it was accepted that the data LDC-IL has, will be useful for ASR. 

ii. The raw data of the speech corpus should be evaluated to check the quality of the data before taking up annotation work. The annotation at the level of utterance/sentence level is enough for ASR. However, LDC-IL will have annotation upto phone level for multipurpose analysis.

iii. The sample data has to be made available in the web.   

C. Standard Tag set:

It was felt to normalize the standard tag set across the research groups working on NLP. BIS has evolved a tag set after consulting concerned institutions and PAC advised LDC-IL to follow the BIS Tag set.

V. Consideration and Discussion of the Licensing issues:

Quality of the data:  The data should be validated by the externals/experts to ensure quality data.

Price: It has to be fixed by the costing committee by looking into the various kinds of data and different categories of users. Evaluation of the price has to be made every 2-3 years.

Membership Fee:  It was suggested to re-fix the membership fee by considering the different categories.

Free Data: It was felt, providing huge quantity of data to the members at free of cost is not advisable. Only they can have membership but they should not take all data for full year. Every data must be priced.

Pay per use: It was strongly recommended to provide specific data for specific price depending upon the requirement of various kinds of users.

Data Security: It was suggested to make proper security for the data available in the LDC-IL. It was also suggested to follow DRC norms to secure the safety of the data.

Deadline: It was told to fix deadline for finalizing the Licensing Policy. The draft policy may be circulated among the members.

Copyright issues: It was advised to include Shri Venkata Rao, Vice-Chancellor, National Law College, Bangalore as a member to the Licensing Policy Committee to obtain suggestions while resolving the copyright issues.

VI (a). Acquisition of Corpus from Publishing Houses:

It was proposed to acquire different kinds of data from various leading publishing houses. Committee felt that, they will charge more for the ready data and unless the price was fixed by the costing committee for the data distribution, purchase of the data also cannot be done. However, LDC-IL is advised to acquire data if it is freely available.

VI (b). Constitution of Costing Committee:

It was felt that, separate costing committee need not be constituted. Licensing committee can look after these matters. However, it was suggested to expand the Licensing Committee.

VI (c). Granting balance amount to IIT, Mumbai

Prof. Pushpak Bhattacharya, IIT Mumbai explained about the project titled “Sanskrit WordNet”. It was decided to sanction remaining grant by considering the report submitted by them.

VI (d & e). Administrative Issues

It was told that, i) Extension of Foreign Service of Shri M. Venkatesan, Maintenance Engineer, LDC-IL and ii) Re-engagement of Shri R. Parthasarathy, Maintenance Officer (Administration & Accounts)I/c, LDC-IL has to be decided by the Ministry. The issue was brought to the notice of the PAC members.

 VII. Other matters

A. Structural issues:
It was agreed to expand the members of each Working Group. The Working Groups have to make preliminary observations and guidelines and submit report for further process. 

B. Grant-in-Aid issues:

Expansion of the Committee:  At present, the LDC-IL has 5 members in the GIA Committee. PAC advised to expand this committee and include 2-3 members from PAC.

Sanctioning of projects: PAC advised to invite grantee’s also to the GIA Meeting to give presentation and brief explanation of their proposals. Preliminary evaluation has to be made by the GIA committee before approving the proposal and before inviting the grantee.  After getting the consent of the members only, funding of the projects can be made. Further, it is advised to update the details in the LDC-IL website with respect to GIA.
 
C. Web-site update:
The committee advised LDC-IL to host the history of LDC-IL from its conception, and acknowledge the institutions involved in it etc., in the website.

The next meeting of the LDC-IL PAC will be held at Mysore within 3 months.

(RAJESH SACHDEVA)                      
Chairperson, Project Advisory Committee, LDC-IL &
Director, Central Institute of Indian Languages, Mysore


MEMBERS PRESENT

1

Prof. Rajesh Sachdeva
Director, CIIL, Mysore

Chairperson

2

Shri. R. P. Sisodia
Director (L), MHRD, New Delhi

Member
Representing Language
Bureau

3

Prof. Rajeev Sangal
Director, IIIT, Hyderabad

Member

4

Director
Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay
 

Member
Represented by Dr. Pushpak Bhattacharya

5

Director
Indian Institute of Technology, Madras
 

Member
Represented by Prof. Hema Murthy

6

National Law School University
Bangalore

Member
Represented by
Prof. R. Venkata Rao, Vice Chancellor

SPECIAL INSTITUTIONAL INVITEES

7

Director
Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur
 

Member
Represented by Prof. Anupam Basu

8

Director
All India Institute of Speech & Hearing
Manasagangotri, Mysore – 570 006

Member
Represented by Dr. Shyamala

SPECIAL INDIVIDUAL INVITEES

9

Prof. Shobha Satyanath
University of Delhi, Delhi

Member

10

Prof. A.G. Ramakrishnan
Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore

Member

11

Prof. Uma Maheshwarrao
University of Hyderabad, Hyderabad

Member

SPECIAL INDUSTRY INVITEES

12

MICROSOFT, Bangalore

Represented by
Dr. Kalika Bali

13

MOTOROLA, Bangalore

Represented by
Shri Shailesh Ramamurthy

 

14

Dr. L. Ramamoorthy
RRO & Head, LDC-IL, CIIL, Mysore

Member-Convener

MEMBERS ABSENT

  1.  

Finance Division, MHRD, N. Delhi

  1.  

MCIT, New Delhi

SPECIAL INSTITUTIONAL INVITEES

  1.  

C-DAC, Pune

  1.  

One person from e-governance of DIT

SPECIAL INDIVIDUAL INVITEES

  1.  

Prof. C.N. Krishnan (AU-KBC, Chennai)

  1.  

Prof. Peri Bhaskararao (ILCAA, Tokyo University of Foreign Studies, Japan)

SPECIAL INDUSTRY INVITEES

  1.  

HP Labs

  1.  

IBM

  1.  

MAIT

  1.  

Google

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